Is there something you’ve always wondered about Zenyatta, Baby Z or Lane’s End?
For the next few weeks we will be collecting questions from Zenyatta’s amazing fans—questions about thoroughbred breeding and life on the farm.
Zenyatta will help us pick some of your questions to use in upcoming features on the the website. We’ll collaborate with the expert staff at Lane’s End to answer your questions.
To send in your question, please fill out the form below.
We look forward to hearing from you!
-Team Z
Edit: We have receieved so many great questions from all of you! Submissions are now closed for the time being. If you didn’t get a chance to ask your question, don’t worry, there will be more opportunities in the future.
Ann
http://www.drf.com/news/belmont-stakes-2012-i%E2%80%99ll-have-another-avoids-collision-loose-horse
I think the filly was so darn giddy w/ excitement to be on the same track w/ IHA!!!
She take fractious filly to an entirely different level!!!!
director of racing for NYRA, was working out the logistics of such an arrangement late Thursday morning. Such an arrangement is in place at Churchill Downs for Kentucky Derby and Kentucky Oaks horses…..oh brother……
Terry Crow GP
I may have to reload some of my stuff as I am running out of horse jokes. A very slow horse was entered in a race. When the starting gate opened, his trainer left. The trainer returned just before the conclusion of the race. Afterwards, the horse said “Where did you go?” “I went to get a haircut,” the trainer replied. “But,” said the horse, “why didn’t you go before the race?” “Because,” said the trainer, I didn’t need one then.”
Karen Gogue / Oh B♥by Oh!
Hahahahaha LOL!! I’ve bet on a few of those!!!
Marty R / Colorado
Terry,
That one was great!!! I’m going to Arapahoe tomorrow…think I’ll watch the trainers before I place a bet, or don’t place one. That’s probably as good a gague as any guess I would make on how to bet. I’m still laughing.
Terry Crow GP
An old handicapping angle that I used in the distant past was to find out if the owners were there.
Marty R / Colorado
I’ve seen some of the owners at Arapahoe and they blend in with the crowd. They don’t get “decked out ” like Mr. and Mrs. Moss. ( I only knew they were owners because I was eaves dropping…I’ll deny that )
Terry Crow GP
If the owners are there, they must think that their horse has a chance. Good luck with that angle.
Sandy (Northeast Ohio)
One must read carefully. I missed the “slow” the first time (duh!) Good one Terry. PLEASE don’t run out of material – we need to keep a horse talking around here!
Terry Crow GP
Well, you’ll still have a jackass.
Sandy (Northeast Ohio)
NO we certainly do not!
Karen Gogue / Oh B♥by Oh!
OMG GP! LOL! LOL!
signofthetimes; President Texas Chapter RNC
Great re loaded horse joke !!!!
Vicki B. near Hollywood Park
I like it, now THAT’S a slow horse!
Terry Crow GP
Here are today’s redneck jokes. You might be a redneck if your dog can open a can of beer for you. You might be a redneck if your favorite restaurant has a gas pump in front of it. You might be a redneck if your house plants are not in pots. You might be a redneck if your engine is duct taped to your car. You might be a redneck if your family reunions consist only of ex-husbands. You might be a redneck if there is more carpeting on your toilet than on your floor. You might be a redneck if the last time you saw your dad outside he was picking up trash, chained to three other guys. You might be a redneck if your mailing address includes the word “holler.” You might be a redneck if your dog gets a birthday present and your husband doesn’t.
Ann
You might be a redneck if your favorite restaurant has a gas pump in front of it.
I just came back from there!!!!! Best BBQ in town!!! HA!!!
U R a nut TC!!!
Karen Gogue / Oh B♥by Oh!
er, excuse me! OGGP Terry!! Affectionately KNOWN as THE DEAR SKUNKIE GP! ♥ :)
Terry Crow GP
Does OG stand for what I think it stands for?
Terry Crow GP
I was thinking of Sue’s description of the Marathon station when I came up with that one. Looks like you are living the life.
Ann
No Marathon,this is country road, look for the smoke drifting up in the air.
We really savor in the character of the sauce. And I’m trying to get that coke sign off the side of that joint!
SharonAtlanta
Terry, you can’t duct tape an engine to a car. The heat would burn it up. You use wire clothes hangers bent to suit!
Terry Crow GP
I stand corrected. Your redneck knowledge is obviously superior to mine. Bout time you joined the club.
SharonAtlanta
That’s what I get for living in Alabama and Georgia all of my life. I’d love to join up. Do I need to fill out an application?
Terry Crow GP
No. Since you have expressed a willingness to join the club, you are in. And, you are hereby designated president of the Georgia chapter. This has been quite a week for the club, having new presidents in Alabama (DMCQ) and Georgia, you. Don’t forget to keep January 27 open as that is our day of celebration. Fellow rednecks-We hereby welcome Sharon into the fold.
SharonAtlanta
I accept. Now what do I do?
Terry Crow GP
You’ve done it already. No one is inducted into the club unless they agree to it and you have. Since you are the only member so far from Georgia, you are appointed president of that chapter. There is a lot of prestige involved, but not much work. Watch your mail for special offers.
Vicki B. near Hollywood Park
Welcome, Sharon! Ha! We hope you won’t regret it.
Sue Fl CPRC
Welcome Sharon I am your neighbor from Florida Sue.
judy berube from Rhode Island
Dear GP TC:
Very, very funny. Thanks. Hugs, JB
DeeInKY
I’ll have to jump in here with one — you might be a redneck if you’ve ever attended a wedding where the bride’s and groom’s families got into a fistfight at the reception. And yes, I have attended such an event.
Terry Crow GP
Dee-You definitely qualify. The joke was good and you have actually had the experience. Kentucky-Home of the McCoys. We are always on the lookout for more members. If you agree to join, Debbie G would be your chapter president with Keta also a charter member.
Vicki B. near Hollywood Park
Wow, Dee, I’m impressed! What a wedding!
M.J. Whitmer
I know that all thorobreds bear a tattoo inside their upper lip for identification purposes (last year a brother of Barbaro who had been abandoned in the desert, as have so many horses with the economy in the tank, was found alive and identified because of the tattoo). Has Baby Z been tattooed?
carol in utah
I think they get their tatoos just before they start racing…someone here will know for sure
SharonAtlanta
Don’t they do that when the foal is registered with the Jockey Club and the JC issues a registration number? Not sure about that one.
Shari Voltz\Ohio
Hi Z Family The children are wild today. We have tomorrow and school is out. I will go through a few days in which I cry and miss the children. We recieved more Hansen bracelets today. I had asked for 20 more and they sent them. These bracelets are all the rage with this age group.
Good Luck to Pati ( I hope I spelled your name right ). Terry great jokes. Sandy in Ohio Yes I am on the left ( the old lady ) The other young woman was my Student Teacher. I did not want to leave her out on picture day. She was a real sweet girl. I hope everyone has a good night.
Ann Maree your post is Beautiful. Thank you for writing what is in my heart : ) Your the BEST !!!!
Terry Crow GP
Ms. Voltz-if you were my teacher I would not want to go on vacation. Bless you and all teachers who are dedicated to their profession.
Karen Gogue / Oh B♥by Oh!
Here Here Terry! (or is that Hear! Hear!?)
Pati- Prince Z Future TC Winner
Yes you did! Thank you! I will make sure to post how it went!
Barbara Wood (Texas)
@Pati–good luck in your show!
@Susan in TN–we did get rain and no storms. Hope you’re getting a good report on your hand? Hugs.
Susan Carothers (in TN)
Hand is progressing nicely- thanks, Barbara! Glad about your rain, too!
Pati- Prince Z Future TC Winner
Thank you for the support! Pictures will be uploaded.
Karen Gogue / Oh B♥by Oh!
Pati – have the ride of your life! YOU GO GIRL!!! I can not wait to meet you, young lady, at the Breeders’ Cup!! ♥ :))
Terry Crow GP
Karen-Any word on Z’s party? There are a few of us still waiting to finalize their plans.
Karen Gogue / Oh B♥by Oh!
I’m like you Terry! Dottie told us that it is in the works with Z’s connections, Santa Anita Park and the Breeders’s Cup. One note: They are trying for the Z Party at Santa Anita’s Clockers Corner area, where they had the baby shower signing. We just have to be patient for a notice, hopefully soon!
SharonAtlanta
Aren’t they unveiling her statue at BC? Maybe they’ll coordinate the party around that.
Pati- Prince Z Future TC Winner
The feeling is mutual!!! I am so excited to meet all of my Z family that are making the trip out there!! I will make sure to post pictures if I figure out how to post them.
Karen Gogue / Oh B♥by Oh!
GP Terry, this is interesting.
https://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/national-news/2012/02/09/california-committee-makes-no-recommendation-on-exchange-wagering.aspx
Terry Crow GP
I don’t often agree with Frank Stronach, but I do here. Of course, the main reason he objects to exchange wagering is that his wagering entities are not prepared to accept the bets and his tracks would lose out initially. Personally, I object to exchange wagering for the same reasons cited by Stronach. It is just not right to bet on a horse to lose and the potential for scandal is enormous. Problem is, the CHRB chairman has a decided English accent when he speaks and Betfair is an English company. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it IS a duck.
Karen Gogue / Oh B♥by Oh!
I agree O’ dear leader! You are exactly right IMO.
Karen Gogue / Oh B♥by Oh!
WOW, they mean business! Read all the new rules!
https://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/national-news/2012/05/30/special-security-planned-for-belmont-stakes-entrants.aspx
Keta
To get an idea how close to diaster this was, Look at the photos in the article!
I’ll Have Another involved in scary incident at Belmont as another horse gets loose and almost barrels over Triple Crown contender
Trainer Doug O’Neill says I’ll Have Another got lucky
By Jerry Bossert / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Published: Thursday, May 31, 2012, 11:10 AM
The Triple Crown was in serious jeopardy Thursday morning when a loose horse came barreling down the track toward Kentucky Derby and Preakness Stakes winner I’ll Have Another, barely missing the colt.
As the contender for racing’s biggest honor entered Belmont’s main track with his pony horse, Lava Man, a loose horse came within inches of I’ll Have Another, an accident that could have ended the colt’s career or possibly taken his life.
“My stomach still gets twisted when I think about it,” trainer Doug O’Neill said.
I’ll Have Another was getting ready for his morning gallop under exercise rider Jonny Garcia just after 8:30 a.m. when the unidentified horse came flying by along the clubhouse turn.
“It grazed Jonny’s boot,” the trainer said. “Normally they walk the outside rail, but the racing gods must have been looking out for him because he was about two feet off the rail this morning. The loose horse went between the rail and I’ll Have Another.”
O’Neill said I’ll Have Another was lucky.
“Normally, when a horse hears another horse coming up on him, they look over and if he did that he would have been T-boned by that horse.”
As a result of the near miss, the New York Racing Association will try to give Belmont Stakes runners a 10-minute gap to train by themselves during the morning workouts.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/involved-scary-incident-belmont-horse-loose-barrels-triple-crown-contender-article-1.1087389#ixzz1wTrKXCTz
Karen Gogue / Oh B♥by Oh!
Thanks Keta!
Terry Crow GP
Good stuff, Keta.
judy berube from Rhode Island
Dear Keta and Z Fans:
OMG, racing is so unpredictable. Thank God no one was injured. Hugs, JB
Sally B. (cherish Z- Wi.)
Keta; Yes, I just this read this through my e-mail & bloodhorse. Oh my gosh!! I have seen a couple horses on the track like this. Fortunately they did not come close to any other horse. I am so thankful I’ll Have Another was not run into. Like the excerciser for I’ll Have Another said, I have seen this happen and it is ugly.
A real close call!!
Brenda S..Ontario, Canada
Love the idea of Zenny choosing questions from us – hope she picks mine. I’ve been “mouseless” for a week now and am completely incapable of navigating without it. I am totally out of touch with everything that’s been going on. Vic’s mouse died and so she “borrows” mine until she has the money to buy a new one. I think she’s just holding out until I break down and buy a new one for myself.
Terry GP – I like your question for Karen. I’d love to know if/when there will be a Zenny party. I was afraid that there might have been an announcement while I’ve been mouseless so it’s a relief to learn that I haven’t missed it.
Barbara Wood (Texas)
Brenda, You’ve been missed.
Terry Crow GP
Second that, eh.
L♥VE Auntie Judy aka JAG / Southern CA
♥ Alpha ruled out of Belmont Stakes
(Godolphin Racing’s Alpha has been ruled out of next week’s Belmont Stakes (G1) after developing a temperature earlier this week and missing several days of training.)
https://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/racing-news/2012/05/31/alpha-ruled-out-of-belmont-stakes.aspx
FEEL BETTER SOON, SWEETIE! xoxo
Karen Gogue / Oh B♥by Oh!
Oh thanks Judy – poor baby, get well soon!
judy berube from Rhode Island
Dear JAG:
He was my choice in an Exacta with IHA. Love Bernie’s boys. Hope he recovers soon. Hugs, JB
Sue Fredrick Co-P WI Chapt.
Alpha out…..oh shoot, he’s a distance horse this could have been his race, now we’ll never know. So many good colts have gone down to illness or injury this year, it’s just too bad. Hope he’s better soon.
Andrea
I am glad he is out. Seems fragile. Glad they are thinking of his well being, maybe better as a handicapper. Go IHA!!!
Marty R / Colorado
Regarding Gratefulness candles: Just a gentle nudge, Kari’s site has been close to burning out and is again. This can be added to Favorites lists for easy remembering.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Kari
Barbara Wood (Texas)
Just lit one. Thanks!
Terry Crow GP
Thanks, Marty.
Susan Carothers (in TN)
Thank you, Marty. <3
ronni
I would love to know if baby Z has a nickname yet? If so, is it possible to share it?
Ronni
signofthetimes; President Texas Chapter RNC
No name yet; 12 Zenyatta is it.
Marty R / Colorado
Very sorry…. I’ll try this again.
Kari’s candle site:
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Kari
Sandy (Northeast Ohio)
Thanks for the reminder, Marty! (if only there were a few hundred less things in my “bookmarks menu” :-)
Sandy
Karen Gogue / Oh B♥by Oh!
Zenny, I love your little Prince’s cuddle face peeking out there! Too cute!!
carol in utah
I am having a “I wonder” moment ….when IHA has to go to “isolation” or whatever it is being called….does lava man get to go too? What would happen if all ten owner/trainer’s said they were happy with their present stabling and did not want to move? Why is this necessary if the whole thing is not completely broken? Seems to me…this is going to upset all ten horses and split the resourses of their teams which is not good for anyone. What do ya’ll think?
Terry Crow GP
I think it is overkill.
Karen Gogue / Oh B♥by Oh!
YEP!
Ann Maree / Tennessee
One of the few times I found myself agreeing with Mike Watchmaker in his most recent blog, in which he says it is an over-the-top response. What is so ironic is in all the attempts at “securing” Belmont against any appearance of any wrongdoing, nobody considered the safety of the horses on the track until our Triple Crown hopeful almost gets run down! The NYRA bunch has gotten a black eye this spring and now with the shake-up and the state taking over, it does look very much like with everyone in charge, no one is in charge!
Marty R / Colorado
Very well stated, Ann Maree.
Jan S. / Houston, TX
Sounds bazaar to me!!
carol in utah
Is it one of those inmates running the asylum things?
Karen Gogue / Oh B♥by Oh!
LOL!
Ann
They better not ban the super size at the track….oh no!!!!
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-31/nyc-mayor-bloomberg-seeks-ban-on-super-size-soft-drinks.html
Don’t think they have their ducks in a row w/ this racing stuff..
Terry Crow GP
Agree. Also, aren’t they worried about all of the other horses running that day? What about Hansen? Why aren’t they in the receiving barn?
Sue Fl CPRC
Terry GP
What do you have planned for us to do on January 27th? Should we all flush something at the same time? You will have to let us know what the protocol is for our special day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-3Iq3XQkAw
Terry Crow GP
Sue-Thanks for the link. We discussed this earlier in the year and got some opinions that a simultaneous flush might cause problems. Perhaps we could stagger the flushes with each member of the club assigned a specific time. I’ll give it some thought.
Ann
I can’t wait. We will be overflowing w/ excitement!!!!!!!
Can we call it the Royal Flush?
I’m going to South of the Border in SC and buying my cherry bombs this summer, for the occasion of course.
Terry Crow GP
I see that you have the proper spirit.
Sue Fredrick Co-P WI Chapt.
Terry,
Don’t you think that even if we co-ordinate the flushes at the exact same hour, because of the different time zones, we should be able to do it without draining any of our lakes?
Ann
With the addition of the Low Flow Flush models, this makes it quite feasible.
Jump on that Green wagon!!!
Terry Crow GP
I am concerned about leaving out all of our friends with outhouses. They are entitled to be a part of the “celebration.”
signofthetimes; President Texas Chapter RNC
Great outhouse comment, TC !!!!!!
Especially with the KY factions recently
Recruited.
Sue Fl CPRC
http://www.jldr.com/ohindex.shtml
Trivia and Folklore
Real Outhouses
Outhouse Races
Much more to read this is so funny I hope you enjoy all of the Johns… ha-ha
Terry Crow GP
Sue-Thanks for the link. I am surprised that the site does not have a link to Mr. Crapper. Of course, he supposedly invented the flush toilet so I guess it doesn’t really apply. Mr. Crapper is rumored to have committed suicide on January 27 by jumping into the open hole of an outhouse. Seems strangely appropriate.
Vicki B. near Hollywood Park
Thanks, Sue, that’s great!
Terry Crow GP
@Vicki B-I just got done watching the show you recommended, Swamp People. Noted is the fact that subtitles were needed to ascertain what they were saying. This show is like our redneck jokes coming to life. Unbelievable. Would anybody watch this except those of us who are rednecks?
Vicki B. near Hollywood Park
@Terry – I don’t know, it was my younger brother who recommended it, and I doubt he fancies himself a redneck, he’s more into “hip” and “cool” and “lattes”, but we do have all the same relatives, LoL. Maybe “redneck” has become “hip and cool”? He said he picked up on it because it’s one of the most popular of those “real” cable shows, has a serious following. But it IS like our jokes coming to life, that’s why I instantly recommended it to you. I couldn’t believe what a natural it was.
@DebbieG. – I left one more postal comment in reply to yours at the end of the previous blog, about the nudist who answered the door when you knocked. https://staging.zenyatta.com/news/lanes-end-video-interviews-part-3#comment-154442
Terry Crow GP
Boy, howdy.
Ann
We are prepping the front porch for some summertime fun. Our neighborhood is overflowing w/ hipsters,the cool crowd. We have set up a new and improved fart machine to say hello to the ones most in need.
Summer…..here we come…move over hipsters,we are taking the hood back over.
judy berube from Rhode Island
Dear Terry Crow and Vicki B.:
There’s another show that airs on A & E on Wednesday nights called “Duck Dynasty”. Here’s an episode. Fills the bill just like the show you mentioned, “Swamp People”. This family is very likable and hilariously funny. Hugs, JB
http://www.aetv.com/duck-dynasty/video/?bcpid=1423648368001&bclid=1504586831001&bctid=1651158833001
Vicki B. near Hollywood Park
Thanks, Judy, I will check that out!
judy berube from Rhode Island
Dear Vicki B.:
Let me know what you think of Duck Dynasty. Hope you find it as funny as I did. Hugs, JB
Ann
M.R. Ducks,yes M.R.
Vicki B. near Hollywood Park
Judy, these people are crazy! That was funny, I especially liked Si’s giant turkey dance, and the real turkey’s approach to the decoy. And the warehouse full of duck calls, I never imagined that many people needing duck calls, in my life — and Si’s pursuit of the “perfect” duck call. And clearly they are ZZTop fans, in more ways than one. But from that one early photo of the 4 guys without beards, I had to wonder if they just all grew their beards for this show, or what, and how long this whole thing has been going on.
judy berube from Rhode Island
Dear Vicki B. and Z Fans:
I have watched Duck Dynasty a few times and I think this family is so funny. Here’s a video and article on their background and how they started their successful business. Hugs, JB
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/redneck-millionaires-built-duck-dynasty-duck-call-business/story?id=15961955#.T8q1lFK2_-c
Vicki B. near Hollywood Park
Thanks, Judy, I am surprised they’ve been doing this so long, and so successfully. What a contrast, between how they looked before, and how they look now! Ya gotta hand it to em.
Terry Crow GP
ann-You certainly have the accent down.
Terry Crow GP
Where do these shows come from? A worthy competitor for Swamp People. Love the rebel flag headbands.
Terry Crow GP
“fills the bill”. Very funny.
Susan Carothers (in TN)
Terry and Vicki- I’ve seen the show’s previews and it’s unbelievable! Yes, it’s too bad when English has to be sub-titled!
Ann
Too bad horse speak can’t be sub-titled.
Terry Crow GP
If you ask you to allow Chester to be a guest star, turn them down.
Terry Crow GP
That should be if they ask, not you
Ann
“Ace”?
Karen Gogue / Oh B♥by Oh!
Somethin’ new at Del Mar – Oh! Zenny and Mikey!
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/may/31/horse-and-running-natural-history-museum/
sue and tony
Oh, my is right! Isn’t it amazing how our Zenny is always front and center…even in retirement. We love it!
LauraJ (Cincinnati, OH)
How nice that they plan to bus the backside workers out to the park so they can see the exhibit.
Terry Crow GP
LauraJ-With the new trend that has been noted, I am surprised the track is not charging the backside workers for the ride.
Ann
Sounds like those ribs have hot sauce on em? Riba riba. Ha!!
Terry Crow GP
Will check this out next time I go to Del Mar. Thanks for the link.
Keta
WAVE-TV video of visit to Three Chimneys Farm & Flower Alley
http://www.wave3.com/category/195955/video-landing-page?clipId=7345340&autostart=true
It is well done–includes Seattle Slew statue & monument
Hope you enjoy viewing this.
Marty R / Colorado
Thanks, Keta, Definitely lots of excitement at Three Chimneys. They are ready for a party. I did enjoy this. Marty R.
Vicki B. near Hollywood Park
Thanks, Keta, I liked that. Excitement building!
Delrene in Carlsbad, Ca
oh my gosh Karen – Just what I found now too!!! Isn’t this exciting. Right down here in San Diego. An absolute must see and yes, Zenyatta again, you are the star of the show….http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/may/31/horse-and-running-natural-history-museum/
Marty R / Colorado
WOW!! Would love to hear a review by anyone who goes to see this.
judy berube from Rhode Island
Dear Z Fans:
Two wonderful Blogs from Barbara Livingston. One is a story and photos of Lord Avie and the other is on Shackleford and other horses in the Met Mile. Enjoy. Hugs, JB
http://www.drf.com/blogs/hello-old-friend
http://www.drf.com/blogs/shack-attack-and-more-met-mile-day
Susan Carothers (in TN)
Judy- Barbara’s photos are just remarkable, aren’t they? The ones of Shack alone and with Caleb’s Posse are stunning!
judy berube from Rhode Island
Dear Susan:
She takes the most beautiful photos of these gorgeous creatures. Love Shack so much. Hugs, JB
Marty R / Colorado
@ Terry Crow GP.
I’ve been thinking about your horse owners angle and decided I need to look for the cleanest cowboy boots and blue jeans then hang close and listen to them talking and maybe I’ll get some good betting ideas. If that doesn’t work, I’ll see what I can figure out from the program. I’m such a dork about betting….usually I don’t. It’s all about the horses, anyway. Marty R.
Barbara Wood (Texas)
I so agree with you. All my money seems to be going to rescue those who need it.
Ann
You have a special reserved spot up in heaven. Thank you.
Terry Crow GP
You might want to ask Anne from Paramount just how good that angle is.
Marshall (NC broad)
Goodnight to all! Sweet dreams to Zenny and 12Z with hugs and kisses on your soft noses!
All the best!
HeidiK (Vallejo, Ca)
I’ve been trying to find a colt that I helped raise. His name is B.a.Joker. I looked on equibase and the last time he raced was at Sunland 4/16/99. I can’t find anymore information on him and where he is at and if he’s still alive. He was such a sweet boy and a beautiful grey who was born chestnut. If anyone can help locate him, I would appreciate it.
Here’s his breeding…
B. a Joker (CA)
GR/RO, H, foaled April 1, 1997
( B. Hoedown – Keyeaster, by Qui Native)
His damn, Keyster as we all called her.. She was built like a brick house and was a pure sprinter but, had issues with breathing. She would burst out of the gate and have at least 5 jumps on everyone, would take the lead by several lengths and then shut down on the turn. She raced mainly in 5 furlong races. B.Hoedown was a beautiful stallion. He had dapples on a flee bitten grey with a rosey coloring. Very well built and a nice comformation. He was also personable.
Qui Native on the other hand, well, was not a nice guy to his mares or those handling him.
If you’re in N.Calif., go check out VictoryRose thoroughbreds. Since I worked there, many things have been changed. On the website, that’s all old stuff and Ellen needs to update the web page. None the less… Go visit and tell Ellen that I sent you!
judy berube from Rhode Island
Dear Heidi:
The last Trainer/Owner listed on Equibase for B A Joker is Brian J. Stivers. According to the latest activity I could find on him through Equibase, he has horses at Ruidoso Downs. Maybe if you would write to him in care of Ruidoso Downs, he might be able to tell you what happened to B A Joker. This is another example of a horse that just disappears without a trace. Very frustrating. Good luck; hope you can get an answer. Mailing address for Ruidoso Downs is: P. O. Box 449, Ruidoso Downs, New Mexico. Hugs, JB
Barbara Wood (Texas)
Judy–thank so much for the research. I ws going to get to it after the morning chores. You are great at this!!!
judy berube from Rhode Island
Dear Barb W.:
Thanks. Hugs, JB
HeidiK (Vallejo, Ca)
Judy, thank you so very much. I would love to find any info on Joker that I can. Here’s a little more of Joker’s story.
Joker once born, belonged to Ellen Jackson. Once weaned, he was taken to her ranch and she was so happy with the big boy. However, he was weaned at 4 months instead of 6 months because he was so big and taking to much out of Keyster. So, once he got to the ranch, he was turned out with a herd of colts. Which he wasn’t used to. He would hang out all by himself and at one point, when I went to visit him, he had a huge gash in his leg. He saw me and came running up to the fence like saying, take me back home. A few months later, Ellen made a deal with a partner that he had his pick of the weanlings. We were hoping that he didn’t pick Joker but, he did. Ellen and I both cried because, we hated to see him go. A couple years later, Ellen presented me with a win pic of Joker. Don’t remember what track he was at and I no longer have the pic. That was the last I have heard anything about him.
The foaling. Keyster was a maiden so, I was a little bit worried. I slept outside of her stall for a few days then, inside the stall with her. When she went into labor, she came over and put her head on my back like she was saying: Mom, it’s time! She took to him like Zenny did to the Prince. She was so proud of her lil colt. Keyster was a lover and loved to give and get hugs and she passed that onto Joker. He was an April fool’s baby and had a white question mark on his head and that’s how he got his name Joker.
judy berube from Rhode Island
Dear Heidi:
Thank you so much for sharing your story about Joker. I do hope you can contact Mr. Stivers and get some answers. We love these beautiful horses and when you bond with them, as you did with Joker, it’s heartbreaking not to know what happened to them. Love and Hugs, JB
Susan Carothers (in TN)
Judy- great detective work! Sounds like a place to start, anyway.
judy berube from Rhode Island
Dear Susan:
Hope it helps get some info on Joker for Heidi. Love and Hugs, JB
Terry Crow GP
Judy-You are a treasure.
judy berube from Rhode Island
Dear GP TC:
Thank you and so are you. Hugs, JB
Susan Carothers (in TN)
Heidi- I really hope you find Joker. Best wishes <3
Terri Zeitz
Affirmed, the last triple crown winner, now has his own webpage. And it’s a beauty. It’s being managed by his owner-breeder, Mrs. Patrice Jacobs Wolfson. She’s the daughter of the famous California trainer, Hirsch Jacobs. And she is a wonderful horsewoman.
Trina Nagele in So Cal
A Birthday Poem for John Shirreffs
(June 1, 2012)
Out of the East
To California came
A young ex-Marine,
John Shirreffs by name,
Who more
Than enough
Of war
Had seen.
He wanted a life
Without such strife
And did search
For his own path of peace
On this earth,
Seeking something more
Like what he’d known before
In New England,
(There he with his family
Happily
Horses had raised
In his boyhood days),
But where he also could surf.
’Twas his love of surfing
That him westward led—
He’d had Hawaii in mind,
But when he stopped in NorCal to visit a friend,
He a job did find
Working with Thoroughbreds,
And so there his travels did end.
In beautiful Grass Valley
His spirits did rally
When on the famed Loma Rica Ranch
He found his chance
In a career to advance—
It was all he was looking for,
Excepting with turf and not surf.
He gained a treasured mentor
From whom he much learned
Of the horsetraining art,
And whose love and regard
He in turn earned
As he worked in the barns
And on the training track.
Here’s the story looking back
At how that relationship—
Still so dear to his heart—
Came to be.
It’s a really good yarn,
Which dear Charlotte Farmer
Found in an interview
And did to me
Impart.
I hope that I justice
Can do
To how John Shirreffs did reminisce
’Bout when, just out of the service,
He by good luck became a young apprentice
Of the famous Henry Freitas.
John Shirreffs, you see,
Had aspired
A professional surfer to be,
But, perhaps a little down in the dumps
Due to a post-service slump,
He did choose
First to accept a horse training offer
There in NorCal
That cattleman Jim Mathews
Him proffered.
John was by Jim hired
To work for room and board
And five dollars a week;
For that, Jim him did ask
To take on the task
Of training an Appaloosa to jump.
Then one day it came to pass
That John was out riding
From one farm
To another,
Perhaps not sufficiently eyeing
The state of the ground,
Nor thinking, of course,
That he and his horse
Might come to some harm,
But of a sudden
He found
That into deep mud
He had ridden,
The depth being from him hidden.
’Twas land,
But quite like quicksand.
I imagine his heart did thud
As his horse ever deeper
Sank in the mud,
Indeed,
Up to the knee
And the hock.
John, though perhaps somewhat in shock,
Quickly took stock
And calmly did begin
To guide
His mount out of the muck
In which it was stuck.
By chance also out for a ride
Was a stranger
Who became aware
Of the mess
John was in,
And at John from a distance
With growing interest
Did stare
As John did begin
To do his best.
The stranger
Admired
John’s compassion
And the fashion
In which John did extricate
His horse from danger.
He thought it a good test
Of John’s competence,
And then he,
Who just happened to be
The renowned Henry Freitas,
Did the providential step take
John on the spot
To hire
His yearlings to break.
John later did confess
Self-deprecatingly
That Henry
Most likely
Did NOT
See
How John had ridden
INTO the mire
And himself caused that mishap,
Quite dire;
Or in the alternative,
John did quip,
Perhap
Henry did like
His hired hands a little dim
And not too smart!
At any rate,
It was John’s fortunate fate
That Henry Freitas
Him hired
To care for
Noble Thoroughbreds,
Among them the champion Noor,
Then already retired,
For years the “Senior Senator,”
As has been said,
In Loma Rica’s stallion barn.
John the yearlings did start,
And also mucked the stalls,
As did the workers all,
But only he lived in quarters above.
To the Freitases, he became like a son,
And when each day’s work was done,
John was invited
To dinner next door,
And he delighted
To partake
Of the delicious home-cooked meals
That Mrs. Freitas (Edith) did make.
Before retiring for the night,
A friendly game of Hearts
Just might
Also be in store.
Henry Freitas was genial
And to visitors amenable—
The gate was always open.
Should those visitors be hopin’
The great Noor to see,
Henry personally
Would bring him out.
Now doesn’t that ranch hospitality
Remind you of Barn 55 with Z?
Loma Rica’s colors were royal blue and white,
The very same you today can sight
On the leg wraps of John Shirreffs’s horses—
Yes, those same hues
Are John’s too.
And John always trains
In accord with the main refrains
Of Henry Freitas:
“Put the horse first.”
And “Take your time, don’t rush.”
And that is how John Shirreffs did care
For his “Zenya,” the world’s greatest mare.
He had no fears
To wait nearly four years.
Patient, going slow,
Letting Zenyatta grow,
Gentle and kind,
Letting Z find
Her balance and gears,
Building her stamina,
Nurturing her inner anima
So she never stopped loving to run
And finding life—and people—fun.
John Shirreffs showed all how it’s done!
Today he remains
A soft-spoken man
Who believes in the carrot, not the stick,
Be it with horse or human.
His smile is easy and quick,
And you will spy
A twinkle in his eye.
Nowadays he is as at home in the barn
Above which jets buzz
As they their approaches to LAX start
Or therefrom depart
As once he was
At rural Loma Rica,
With its hundreds
Of rolling green acres
Crossed by white fences, like lace,
Where Thoroughbreds
Were bred
And trained to race,
Or on that familial New Hampshire farm
Where the love of this man
For the horse first began.
He’s a quiet guy,
Not really shy,
Yet happiest out of the limelight.
When his entry
In victory
To the winner’s circle does go,
He just might
From the apron take in that show,
For what makes his heart sing
Is witnessing
The delight
Those victories bring
To the horses’ adoring
Fans and owners.
Dear Mr. Shirreffs,
You are the best!
We wish you great success
And every happiness!
Happy birthday, Mr. Shirreffs, and many, many more! Thank you for giving us the great Zenyatta, Horse of Our Lifetime!
Note: The 2009 interview of John Shirreffs by Frances J Karon can be found in Issue Number 14 of North American Trainer, October 14, 2009.
http://america.trainermagazine.com/john-shirreffs—a-great-ambassador-for-the-sport-of-horseracing-cms-131
judy berube from Rhode Island
Dear Trina:
You have captured the essence of JS. Just wonderful. Hugs, JB
sharon in seattle
Trina – extra bravos for so capturing John’s spirit in your poem!
Sue Fl CPRC
Trina you are amazing. What a wonderful Birthday gift to John. God Bless
The Kennedys in San Diego
Bellisimo! Brava, Trina.
L♥VE Auntie Judy aka JAG / Southern CA
Wonderful, Trina! He is a patient and compassionate trainer whom I adore! His work ethics are A+++. He has set the bar high – I wish more trainers followed in his footsteps!
I also wanted to acknowlege his lovely wife, Dottie! “The Woman Behind the Man”! I think she helps him without a doubt! Good team!! :-)
JAG
Marilu V
Trina – Congratulations. What a wonderful poem for Mr. Shirreffs.
It was not only a poem but a great short story!! Hugs, Marilu
Susan Carothers (in TN)
Trina- how wonderful! What a birthday tribute to “our John.” I so hope he and Dottie see it! Thank you for sharing- amazing!
Marshall (NC broad)
Trina,
Thanks so much for this wonderful John Shirreffs poem. What a fine job! You keep topping yourself!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, John Shirreffs!! Best Wishes for many, many more great years!
You are the BEST!
Peggy (N) South Georgia
Trina the poem is just wonderful. Thank you so much.
Happy Birthday John Shirreffs and I wish you many many more.
Thank You for taking such good care of our (Girl) Zenyatta.
Elizabeth in NM
Trina,
Amazing poem about John. Thank you so much. You’re a wonder! God’s many blessings, Trina.
To John Shirreffs,
Happy Birthday. Thank you for everything you do and have done for the horse racing community, for all of us Zenyatta fans, and especially for being the best example of how to be a great trainer. You and Dottie are such amazing people and such an inspiration to us all.
We wish you and Dottie God’s continued blessings
Terry Crow GP
Trina-I don’t know how you do it. All of the aspects of John’s career are here. Great stuff.
Vicki B. near Hollywood Park
Trina, it’s pretty amazing how you came up with and put together so much info on John, all in a beautiful poem! Thanks.
signofthetimes; President Texas Chapter RNC
Love this poem Trina
One of your very best for a very special man.
Trisha from VA
John
Happy Happy Birthday and so many more. You are a hero to us for having the kind and gentle soul it takes to nurture such wonderful animals. Giving them the trust and confidence to give their all.
Wishing you all the best of luck, health and happiness. With great admiration and thankfulness for all you have given us through Zenyatta.
Love, hugs and kisses
Sue Fredrick Co-P WI Chapt.
To our beloved John,
Happy Birthday, horse whisperer, and we hope you will be around to give your loving touch to many, many more of our glorious TBS. We thank you every day for giving us the best mare ever to love and follow, hopefully for the rest of her life. You are truly a gentle spirit. Hugs to you on this special day.
Trina, my gosh what can one say of your magnificent tribute to our John. You have given us another peek into his interesting life. Thank you for expressing to him our love and respect. Hugs to you too.
Cynthia H./ 12th ♥
Kari posted the following comment on the Diary last year, in honor of John Shirreffs’ birthday. As she cannot be with us this year to express her best wishes, I don’t think that she would mind if it be placed here once again. It is as remarkably fitting today as it was then. To her beautiful words and sentiments, I can add nothing, other than to say: ditto, sweet dear good much-loved and much-missed friend. Ditto. Happy birthday, Hero.
12th ♥
♥ June 1, 2011 at 11:17 pm
To my hero Mr. John Shirreffs may this be a Birthday full of all the joy and love you gave us. You are a great mentor and teacher in your own unique kind, gentle way.You are the man who tirelessly, patiently taught our Queen to rule…and in watching you we all learned so many life lessons. You and the Queen created a magic that will be remebered for all time. I will always be in your corner. I learned so very much from Zenyatta & all of Team Z- I could never thank you enough. May you have nothing but pure Joy Love & Happiness always…..Of all the people on planet earth you are sincerely my hero and the one I most admire. I mean this from the bottom of my heart…..I love you Dottie – Zenny and everyone with a passion….Best of Everything to you always!!
Zenyatta- Congratulations!!! I am soo happy for you. Stay healthy my precious one…I am beyond thrilled to know you are Happy!!! this video says it best for me….I love you Joy indeed Mr.Shirreffs….Pure JOY!!! ♥
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWaDA1cNK1w
judy berube from Rhode Island
Dear Cynthia H.:
No one was able to express our feelings about Zenyatta, her Dear John, her Team and the magic that is Our Queen better than Kari. Her words will always keep her close. Love and Hugs, JB
Max
Cynthia. This is a nice reminder of Kari. Her video is fantastic.
Sandy (Northeast Ohio)
Cynthia,
Thank you SO much for posting Kari’s tribute to John as well as the link to the video. Somehow I had missed that one so seeing it was a special treat for me. I also wanted to tell you that the “musical notes” that I was able to add to Trina’s “Birthday song” were shamelessly copied from one of YOUR posts (and I should have give you credit), and I would give a lot to know how you do these creative symbols. I saved the notes into a Word file, but I can’t get it to work again.
Cynthia H./ 12th ♥
Sandy, I am the dumbest person on the planet when it comes to computer skills. I give all credit to my Apple! If you happen to own one, look under “Edit” at the top of the page, and then click on “Special Characters” on the menu. You will find enough symbols there to make your ♥ sing! If you don’t have an Apple, maybe there is a similar feature on your computer under “Edit.”
♥
Sandy (Northeast Ohio)
Woo Hoo!! (who knew???) I DO have an Apple, and I had actually seen that “Special Characters” sub-menu, but when I clicked on it, there wasn’t anything in the box, and I thought I was barking up the wrong tree.
Today I figured it out! ♫♫♬♬♪♪ ☀☀☀☀☀☀ ✩✩✩✩ ❉ ❉ ❉ ❉ ❉ ❉
THANK YOU to one of the most creative people on the planet. When one writes the way you do, the computer is reduced to a mere tool of communication!
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Cynthia H./ 12th ♥
HURRAY, Sandy! Now go out and embellish your life and words with a flourish!
☛ ♫♥♩❤♫♥♪❤♩☚
♥
Sue Fredrick Co-P WI Chapt.
Cynthia H,
How wonderful of you to think of Kari’s post on John’s special day! Her words ring true today as they did a year ago, and it is like having her among us again. Thank you. Hugs
HeidiK (Vallejo, Ca)
Cynthia. Thank you for this, it brought tears to my eyes because, we all Miss Kari so much. Her words are a treasure and ring so true. Happy Birthday John!
Susan Carothers (in TN)
Cynthia- thank you so much for re-sharing this today. This is a fine example of Kari’s legacy: kind words; wonderful, loving descriptions and passion for all she loved. <3
Marilu V
Dear Cynthia H:
Thank you for sharing this tribute from Kari with us today. I missed this last year.
What a year it has been for many of us. We lost some of our loves ones and gained new ones. Little Z has brought joy into our lives. Thanks again!!
Hugs, Marilu
Jan S. / Houston, TX
No one did it better than Kari. Beautiful video.
Cynthia H./ 12th ♥
Thank you all so much for your beautiful and true comments about Kari.
Her words are alive with the life which she so generously shared with all of us.
“Gratitude is the heart’s remembrance.”
12th ♥
Terry Crow GP
Cynthia-She is with us and she doesn’t mind at all.
Cynthia H./ 12th ♥
Terry, it is 2012 and I’ll Have Another would be the 12th Triple Crown winner. Dare we hope……..
judy berube from Rhode Island
Dear Cynthia:
There you go! He’s got a very special spirit helping him. I think he’s gonna do it. Hugs, JB
Cynthia H./ 12th ♥
Let’s hope hard, Judy! It would really be something. Kari always laughed at the odds. Hugs and payers to you. ♥
Cynthia H./ 12th ♥
**prayers to you, although payers are always nice!
Vicki B. near Hollywood Park
Thanks for that, Cynthia! I too, had never seen that video before. Kari’s Joy at dancing with Zenyatta, comes thru so clearly.
signofthetimes; President Texas Chapter RNC
Thanks so much, Cynthia for reposting Kari’s
Lovely comments for John’s birthday 2011.
Cynthia H./ 12th ♥
Your joy doubles that which I felt at sharing it, VIcki and sign. Thank you!
♥♥